Project Key Mapping

[djvj]

New home for this project!!
(old location)

What we are shooting for:


Main Goal:

• One key configuration compatible with every emulator

Challenge:

• Finding what emus do not work with certain keys
• Some emus have hardcoded keys that trigger certain functions (like save state slot) in the emu that cannot be mapped or even used for normal gameplay keys
• Example, SSF and all the entire row of number keys cannot be mapped to anything

Alt Goals:

• Minimum keymapper profiles needed across all systems
• Easier to share emulator configs and keymapper profiles with others

What we need:

• As many project members as possible that can take an allotment of emus and test them with the project's current default keys.
• This may be as simple as setting the keys in the controller settings and seeing if the emu takes it.
• Report back any keys not able to be assigned to controls
• If any changes are needed to the initial keys, we may need everyone to retest their assigned emus.
• More people who volunteer to help, less emus each of you have to test.

Keys we want to avoid and already know have issues for Player 1 and 2 for buttons 1 through 10:

• All number keys (this is not the numpad)
• Modifier keys (alt, ctrl, shift)
• Enter
• Symbols (,./;'[]\-=`)
• Tab
• P (often used as a pause key)

Current list of ideal keys can be found here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ot4n0qa00ny7jlf/Recomended Controls-new version.docx?dl=0
Player 1 and 2 are crucial that they must have keys that work across all emus.
Player 3 and 4 are allowed to use keys that could not be assigned to Player 1 and 2.
After Player 4, there is just not enough keys on the keyboard to assign. So if you are trying to play Saturn Bomberman with 10 people, you obviously need to assign joysticks as your controls in SSF.
After button 10, emus that may require that many keys, would probably not have the limitations of certain keys being used, and allow anything to be mapped.
PC systems will require the entire keyboard in many cases, these need not be discussed because they will require custom controls set in most cases.


List of emus:

1. 1964
2. AAE
3. Arnold
4. Atari800
5. Bgb
6. BizHawk
7. BlueMSX
8. BlueStacks
9. Bsnes
10. Casual Games
11. CCS64
12. CDiEmu
13. Cxbx
14. Daphne
15. Daphne Singe
16. DCVG5K
17. Demul
18. DeSmuME
19. DFend
20. DICE
21. Dolphin
22. Dolphin Triforce
23. DWJukebox
24. Dxbx
25. DXWnd
26. Emma 02
27. Emu7800
28. ePSXe
29. ePV-1000
30. EZ Flasher
31. Fceux
32. Final Burn Alpha
33. Flash Game Player
34. Flash Player Projector
35. FoFiX
36. FourDO
37. FreeDO
38. FreezeSMS
39. FS-UAE
40. Fusion
41. Future Pinball
42. Gambatte
43. GameCom
44. GeePee32
45. Gens
46. GEST
47. Handy
48. Hatari
49. Higan
50. Jaguar Tempest 2000 Emulator
51. JNes
52. JPcsp
53. Kat5200
54. Magic Engine
55. Makaron
56. MakaronEX
57. MAME
58. Mednafen
59. Meka
60. MESS
61. MFME
62. MUGEN
63. Nebula
64. NeoRaine
65. Nestopia
66. Nintendulator
67. No$GBA
68. Nostalgia
69. NullDC
70. Ootake
71. OpenBOR
72. OpenMSX
73. ParaJVE
74. PCLauncher
75. PCSX2
76. PCSXR
77. Phoenix
78. PicoDrive
79. PlayGuy
80. PokeMini
81. PPSSPP
82. Project Tempest
83. Project64
84. ProSystem
85. PSXfin
86. PSXMAME
87. puNES
88. Radikal Bikers Emu
89. Regen
90. RetroArch
91. ScummVM
92. Sega Model 2 Emulator
93. Snes9x
94. Spectaculator
95. SSF
96. Steem
97. Stella
98. SuperModel
99. T98-Next
100. Turbo Engine 16
101. TwoMbit
102. U64Emu Platinum Edition
103. UberNES
104. UNZ
105. VBA Link
106. Virtual APF
107. Virtual Aquarius
108. Virtual Jaguar
109. Visual Pinball
110. VisualBoyAdvance-M
111. VivaNonno
112. WinAPE
113. WinArcadia
114. WinKawaks
115. WinUAE
116. WinUAE Loader
117. WinVICE
118. Xebra
119. XM6
120. Yabause
121. ZiNc
122. ZSNESw

Emulators assigned to:

• 1-20: Name??
• 21-40: Name??
• 41-60: Name??
• 61-80: Name??
• 81-100: Name??
• 101-121: Name??

IF YOU ARE NOT A PROJECT MEMBER BUT WOULD LIKE TO HELP WITH THIS PROJECT, SEND ME A PM REQUESTING MEMBERSHIP, SUBJECT: "PROJECT KEY MAPPING MEMBERSHIP REQUEST"


PLEASE ALSO STATE WHAT EMULATORS YOU WANT TO WORKS ON. YOU CAN DO AS MANY OR AS LITTLE AS YOU CHOOSE.

 

[djvj]

reserved...

 

[paulmichel21]

my base to work
for this to work you must create an ahk containing only keyboard remapping
then would have to tell the hyperlaunch that Remapping this ahk universal with their respective ahk emultaor KeyMapper
Now, when you want to upgrade for example MAME is not necessary to assign the keys again.
this is for any upgrade like.




0 :: 0 Select
0 :: 0 Select Game
1 :: 1 Players 1 start buttons
1 :: Left Shift Player 1 Start
1 :: - Enter
1 :: 1 Toggles 1 or 2 Player Mode
2 :: 2 Players 2 start buttons
2 :: W Player 2 Start
2 :: 2 Start Game
3 :: 3 Players 3 start buttons
4 :: 4 Players 4 start buttons
5 :: 5 Adds Time
5 :: 5 Insert coin 1
6 :: 6 Insert coin 2
7 :: 7 Insert coin 3
8 :: 8 Insert coin 4
9 :: 9 Reset
10 :: up Controller (Player 1) UP
11 :: dow Controller (Player 1) DOWN
12 :: left Controller (Player 1) LEFT
13 :: right Controller (Player 1) RIGHT
14 :: Left Ctrl Fire 1 (Player 1)
15 :: Left Alt Fire 2 (Player 1)
16 :: Space Fire 3 (Player 1)
17 :: Left Shift Fire 4 (Player 1)
18 :: Z Fire 5 (Player 1)
19 :: X Fire 6(Player 1)
20 :: R Controller (Player 2) UP
21 :: F Controller (Player 2) DOWN
22 :: G Controller (Player 2) LEFT
23 :: D Controller (Player 2) RIGHT
24 :: A Fire 1 (Player 2)
25 :: S Fire 2 (Player 2)
26 :: Q Fire 3 (Player 2)
27 :: W Fire 4 (Player 2)
28 :: C Fire 5 (Player 2)
29 :: V Fire 6 (Player 2)
29 :: Esc Exit from game
30 :: tab Config
31 :: P Pause the game

- - - Updated - - -

MAME - Keymap

http://pastebin.com/Mamwc818

Atari 2600 - stella keymap

http://pastebin.com/rCxDcYkf

 

[djvj]

Fixed the dropbox link on the first post. Dropbox disabled all links in May from a security flaw. Had to go and re-enable it.

 

[evilecho]

Hello all... I am looking forward to contributing to this project. I don't mean to sound thick, but is there a purple dinosaur level tutorial on how to prep HyperLaunch for this functionality? I tried to follow paulmichel21's post but got stuck at "tell the hyperlaunch that Remapping this ahk universal with their respective ahk emultaor KeyMapper" The only thing I have available in the GLOBAL->Settings->Main Settings->Keymapper section the only keymapper in the drop down menu is xpadder and joytokey... if I leave it blank HyperLaunch throws out an error. I've searched forums, I might be using the wrong keywords, but I have no been able to find anything to help me. Thanks in advanced.

v/r
EvilEcho

 

[djvj]

Welcome evilecho, thanks for taking an interest in the project!

Blank is not a valid choice and a known bug, this was fixed in beta. That field must contain something and the only viable options are the other choices. Also use_global works too.

I don't think there is anything on the HL side to really do for this, it's more about seeing what keys can or cannot be used in each emu and trying to figure out the best keymapping to be used globally while taking into account all the emus we support. We need to identify what emus have very stringent mapping and do not allow certain keys to be mapped. SSF for example, does not allow number keys at all to be used. This makes it difficult to try and use a globally defined mapping with this emu. if we want to have our defaults use number keys.

 

[nosh]

Welcome evilecho, thanks for taking an interest in the project!

Blank is not a valid choice and a known bug, this was fixed in beta. That field must contain something and the only viable options are the other choices. Also use_global works too.

I don't think there is anything on the HL side to really do for this, it's more about seeing what keys can or cannot be used in each emu and trying to figure out the best keymapping to be used globally while taking into account all the emus we support. We need to identify what emus have very stringent mapping and do not allow certain keys to be mapped. SSF for example, does not allow number keys at all to be used. This makes it difficult to try and use a globally defined mapping with this emu. if we want to have our defaults use number keys.

Number keys are also commonly used for save/load state in many emulators. It can be done with SSF but it isnt straight forward, I actually have 4 players worth of keys mapped for SSF that do not conflict with keys used by SSF.

 

[bleasby]

as a starting point, I would just take the last keyboard configuration that polemicist posted, and start to go emulator by emulator configuring the controls one by one, and making notes about the emulators that you are able to configure two and four players, on a organized google docs spreedsheet for example, with this default key assignment.

If you find any emulator that does not work with them, try to find out why and write the details to share the info.

 

[evilecho]

Okay, I was getting ahead of myself. I was also trying to create an ahk file to map the current config to default config of the emulator. I just cant get that to work for what ever reason.

 

[Ninja2bseen]

Hi djvj, I'm not bragging just trying to figure out if I could help. I use xpadder for p1 and p2 controls. I have buttons matched to the set like 5 is always select and 1 is always start etc. I have p1 and p2 set for 75 systems. Are you just needing the profiles uploaded?

 

[Potts43]

Hi, years ago I ran into this issue of key mapping. I was advised to reconfig/remap emus to match Mames defaults. The reason I had to finally agree was due to future pinball using the function keys. Is there a simple way to config emus like spectaculator & win vice as most games use strange keys or joystick.

 

[timmyb]

I started something similar before I found this project so I put it on gDocs.
Spreadsheet Here

My idea being if I can get the relation of all the controllers then I can have more freedom with the keyboard. I'm coming at it with a ps3/360 controller.

 

[Ninja2bseen]

I don't have those emus but good luck! Potts and Timmy, u are jr members like me, are you able to see thanks for posts. I think us jrs can't do it and I think djvj and nosh think I'm crazy since I can't see them. U too?

 

[timmyb]

yeah->

 

[Ninja2bseen]

Funny, I guess it's just me that can't thank posts! It's silly, and not a user issue I think as it's tape same concept as hyperspin, I just don't have the access here. Well thanks for checking!

 

[djvj]

You should be good now ninja, look again.

And no, this project does not just need profiles uploaded. That's not even mentioned in the "What we need" section above. The project needs to have it's default keys tested on all emus and report back what emus give an issue with assigning those keys.

 

[Potts43]

Funny, I guess it's just me that can't thank posts! It's silly, and not a user issue I think as it's tape same concept as hyperspin, I just don't have the access here. Well thanks for checking!

No I couldn't either

 

[timmyb]

Hi guys! So I'd like to help out with this project. Would you mind listing the emulators that you've taken?
Ill be tracking it here: http://goo.gl/W7hZ5H That is editable by anyone.
Reply in this thread and I'll add it myself or just put it in the spreadsheet yourself. I'm going to start at the bottom and work up. Hopefully I'll have less of a chance of working over something that someone has all ready done.
If I don't hear from anyone I'll just press on as this is something that is holding me up from getting system configured. Thanks

 

[Ninja2bseen]

I see thank yous!

 

[DesertBlade]

Just joined the project. Do we have a shared location of config files already configured to the standard keyset? I am setting up 2 Hyperlaunch machines this next month, using I-PACs and would like to standardize and hope I can piggyback on some previous work.